Should TV show Writers/Creators apologize for spreading TDS?

They absolutely should. Furthermore, I’ll have you know, that I think they should also apologize for the woke agenda. Unless they do so and make it felt, there’s nothing in me that has any shred of supportive will towards them. I get no indication that they care about Americans. I do not think the strike is going to work out, do you? It might be over for a lot of actors and writers. If it is, one would hope they would start taking it out on the industry and start whistle-blowing on Hollywood insiders.

@Salvince No. I am not Ethan and don’t work with anyone who orbits him. I just liked the name. I actually feel bad that I like the name and indie concept so much. I know Chuck Dixon does not like the term “Comicsgate,” but after GamerGate, and me growing up on some Marvel comics, I just took the name.

Not affiliated with EVS at all. In fact, I hope what I say does not reflect poorly on comicsgate. I’m wondering if I should change the name or nuke the account?

Your writing and thoughts on the industry are good. A.I. is really taking off. Look at Spiderverse or TMNT. The biggest collapse though has been the writing and the character of the actors. I won’t even miss it. I bailed on Hollywood over 10 years ago. I just liked some of Jeremy’s and Nerdrotic’s videos and was surprised anyone who flip the bird to the cosmopolitan class.

AI is not going to take over writing.  Just because it can “compose” something does not mean it can make anything that makes sense much less is of quality or interest. And in my opinion it’s not writhing anything it’s essentially plagiarism via algorithmic paraphrasing.

Hollywood will shrink financially but they won’t fail.  But you have to understand they know that.  They are not writing garbage by accident.  They know you don’t like it but they do not care because it’s the propaganda they want to put out.  This is not at all new, they have been making propaganda since the 50’s.  They have always been aware of the power of their influence and had a pledge against undue influence early on.

Hollywood has survived a number of radical market shifts over the years like the advent of Television and Streaming.  It will continue to roll on more than likely.

I am not saying Hollywood is anything good, worthy or of value.  But simply writing them off as hapless dingdongs severely underestimates their influence and market power.  This is a mistake.

As far as TDS.  The lies and disinformation (intentional misinformation) are not really the root problem.  It’s a symptom of a corrupt system and a section of the population whom are happy to listen to that corrupt system because they believe it is responsible for their happiness or level of comfort.

Dingdongs on the left are allowed to say stupid stuff just as are dingdongs on the right (there are dingdongs on all sides) are allowed too.  What we should shoot for is not silencing grifters and propagandists but educating a population.  And if you can do that successfully, even just a little bit, the problem pretty much solves itself.

“AI already writes and draws better than the grifters now, so what’s stopping them? Almost nothing.”

That’s really not saying a whole lot and I actually challenge that premise.  But let’s say you are correct that AI writes better than the stinky Hollywood writers.  The only people that hurts are the writers themselves.  The Hollywood machine will march on because it will just use AI and if it makes them more money and pushes their propaganda then all that happened is a lot of writers lost their jobs and Hollywood got to save a ton of cash on salaries, benefits and so on.

“Hollywood knows what it’s doing, but hasnt done anything capable of changing their behaviors. Hollywood is a disintegrating industry”

It is not disintegrating.  Taking in less money than usual, probably,  but falling apart no and that it is somewhat debatable if we take into account licensing agreements and worldwide intake.  Hollywood’s means of profit does not at all begin and end with ticket sales.

“And we have been educating  Masses, the education has shown more people in support of Traditional ideologies and the diminishing of leftist ones. More countries right now are going back to traditionalism of their countries and ultimately ignoring the globalist agenda.”

That is a very rosy outlook and as much as I want that to be true I am fairly confident that is a anecdotal observation by you and not based on a lot of concrete information.  You are entitled to your opinion,  as am I,  but I don’t represent my opinion as fact.

“What I think is that you are not seeing the long lasting effects the industry is suffering from and you aren’t giving conservative/traditionalism/True Republicans the credit they deserve.”

I have not pretended to know what you see or observe nor what angle, leaning or tribe you claim allegiance to so I am not sure why you are throwing that at me.  I see just fine.  Just because it’s not the same thing you might see does not invalidate it.  As far as giving those tribes “the credit they deserve”, I am not even sure how to respond because all I have gone on about is that Hollywood is not as week and feeble , in my opinion, as you seem to think it is.  I have mentioned many times on these forums that I believe culture is shifting and for once to the positive.  I have made entire threads about it so, again, not sure what you are referring to.

“If the leftist ideology held perfect dominion,”

I never said the leftists held perfect dominion, clearly that’s not the case, but right now they hold a lot of power.

“this country would have already been sold to China 100% by now.”

I have no idea what percentage it is at this point but it’s probably pretty damn high.

“You say they aren’t dumb, but Soros put his millennial son in charge and now they’re facing a financial downfall.”

I am not sure if I am just vague or over generalizing or what but you are conflating a number of things.  What does George Soros have to do with Hollywood? Who is facing a downfall?  I am not sure why you assume people whom essentially control large swaths of the world are entirely incompetent or unintelligent.  I am not saying they are evil geniuses but clearly they have developed ways to control entire countries while they sit atop of a pile of someone else’s money while demanding (and legislating)  everyone else do as they say.

“I respect that you don’t underestimate your enemies, but don’t sit there and ignore where we are striking and weakening the giant. The most fatal flaw in any battle is to assume you already won, you are showing that, but its also crucial to note that if you are too busy focusing on their power, you ignore their Achilles heel.”

Um what?  I am showing an assumption of victory by saying don’t underestimate some of the enemy?  That is entirely contradictory.

I am not trying to push an agenda or my way of thinking. I am not trying to force a way of life or a set of beliefs on anyone.  If we are in the business of doing that then you are the monster you are attempting to slay.

I honestly don’t care who “wins”.  All I know is the tyrannical left, the world over, needs to lose.

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“Nah, you’re not even reading what I’m saying at this point”

Given the hour I spent reading, quoting and replying to your last post I find that pretty insulting.

“Recent studies show more and more ideology from the left is being forced out of multiple countries.”

I am not sure what studies you are referring to, but clearly the major export of the USA at this point is leftist ideology.

“And don’t sit here and say “you’re the same as the people I am pointing the finger at.”

I will say it because it’s true.  If your goal or agenda is to force others to behave as wish or do as you want then your goal is the same as the tyrannical left’s with just different beliefs.   Saying certain things are wrong or immoral is not the same as the government compelling people to speak or act.  For example.  We can say that a person has the freedom to identify as they wish.  Call yourself a cat if you want.  But compelling others to play along is tyrannical. All allowing said cat person to dance naked in front of children is highly wrong and immoral and should be allowed as it such a thing is damaging to a child.

” If you’re against anything the left brings to the table, you’re on the right side. That’s how they perceive us,”

True, this is a paradigm of their own making.  It’s an attempt to “other” people.  Either you are 100% onboard with the insanity or your are essentially considered subhuman.

“We are on the same side, but you got to quit this “tribalism” argument because at the end of the day it’s global leftist elitism versus the the sanity of Americans.”

It’s not an argument it’s an observation. Everyone is pushed into tribes via constant propaganda whom are then set against each other.   This is currently how the political elite is controlling society via divide and conquer.  This is the reason for things like CRT and all the other marxist tactics they use.  Realizing that, pointing it out and refusing to play that game is how you take away the power it has.

“You contradicted yourself by saying “I don’t care who wins” and then say “The tyrannical left needs to lose” because that’s picking a side”

No I actually did not.   It does not matter what political tribe comes out on top so long as it’s not the left.

“There’s nothing to argue about, quit trying to segregate yourself as some morally superior individual, you’re just like us, fighting for what you’re against.”

I am not sure what we are arguing about at this point vs. my belief Hollywood is not hurting as bad as you think it is.  I never once claimed to be morally superior or anything even close to it and I have zero clue why you are even claiming such a thing.

“Furthermore, I didn’t say you were assuming anything, you’re doing the exact opposite which is smart, but you also aren’t acknowledging where the enemy has lost and is losing.”

Well that side of it has not come up.  The whole conversation was the Hollywood thing.  But I clearly mentioned that their is a huge culture shift going on in the positive direction away from the left.  This is massively significant as I would argue this has not happened since the leftist slide that began probably in the 60’s and started to spread like wildfire from the 90’s on. But that shift won’t continue if we don’t keep pushing. And the point there is not that “the right” needs to take over and force everyone to act a certain way, it’s just that the marxists need to be removed from power and those feed off society and those that would corrupt our children need to be socially shunned for their behavior. “Make stigma great again”.

“Yes, I see where the left still has control, it’s a lot, but it’s not hidden anymore. The fact that is exposed for everyone to see and more Americans come to this agreement that it’s wrong, people are starting to see the reality of the issues.”

Absolutely agree 100%. I do believe this is one of the primary reasons for the culture shift I just spoke of.  And the interesting part there is we can thank Donald Trump for that.  One can argue about how effective he was politically but he clearly has had a major culture effect.  He has brought populism back and exposed the establishment as he forced their hand bringing it to the light of day.  This is why I think he is actually more effective as a culture leader than a political one.

“Regardless of how you feel, if you’re against the Marxist agendas, you’re on the same side as us. You can try and make the statement of a “free thinker” all day,”

I am not sure who “us” is, but obviously I am against the Marxists.  I have never said the words “free thinker”.  I would hope everyone is a free thinker and acts on their own behalf and in their own interests vs. clinging to the tenants of a tribe. Which essentially describes the left at this point.

“Look, I get it, you’re politically neutral. That’s cool, but if you vote libertarian when everyone needs to vote for Trump to get a corrupt puppet out of office”

I never said I was politically neutral, nor claimed it, nor even described that.  Simply because I refuse to hold to the tenants of a political party does not mean I don’t choose sides. I have never voted libertarian in my life nor am I a libertarian. Assuming things about a person you don’t know beyond a couple of forum posts is silly.

“The right thing to do is support those who have less power and become ideologically stronger. I’m not saying you need to hold allegiance to only right ideologies, but you also can’t shy away from a fight to take it against the leftist tyranny.”

Shy away?  I have made hundreds of posts on this forum against leftist ideologies so that falls flat in my opinion.

“You need to quit thinking about yourself so much and think about the best way to support a cause to destroy the tyrannical left. Whether that’s educating others or voting a certain way. I’m not saying you have to vote that way, think that way, or do exactly everything a conservative does or thinks.”

Thinking about myself?  How do you figure that one?  I am a conservative.

“You’re the one weakening what we all agree on by putting your individual identity before the fight we are in.”

Who is “we”?  My individual identity?  I have no idea what you are talking about at this point or how you pull that from a disagreement about Hollywood financial state.

“So make up your mind, do you want the woke leftists to win? Because this is how they’re winning right now. Are you going to work with everyone whose against globalist perversions or you’re going to sit on the side lines and “see how it plays out.”

This division is how the leftists came to control everything. The division you have sewn into this conversation is exactly what they want.”

What division have I sewn?  Is disagreement sewing division?  Do you really expect to agree with anyone 100% on anything?  That is an expectation not tethered to reality.   And again, in the context of this forum, my many posts against the tyrannical Marxists speaks for itself so how you arrive at this conclusion of what I am, that I somehow stand against you or that I am politically neutral is absolute unfounded nonsense.

Yes they should! It’s because of this that we’re getting needless reboots like the ‘Harry Potter’, ‘Lord of the Rings’ and ‘Twilight’ franchises (although to be fair, I think ‘Twilight’ could benefit more from a reboot than the other two. It’s one of the few cases in which I think the books were better than the films) as well as the string of Disney live action “remakes” (I’m a Disney fan and even I think they need to STOP WITH THE REMAKES as well as this awful agender that they’re pushing🤬!).