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In case you’re interested, here is the MediaInfo for a recent Fortnite stream – one for YouTube and one for Kick. TLDR: Kick is higher quality for both video and audio, but especially video.
Kick:
General
Complete name : D:\YouTube\DDayCobra 199\DDayCobra – 2024-01-30 – Fortnite – Zero Build – 199 Cobra Street, Dub City USA – Kick.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
File size : 9.54 GiB
Duration : 2 h 46 min
Overall bit rate mode : Constant
Overall bit rate : 8 181 kb/s
Frame rate : 60.000 FPS
Writing application : Lavf60.3.100
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference : 4 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=120
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 2 h 46 min
Source duration : 2 h 46 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 8 003 kb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 60.000 FPS
Minimum frame rate : 58.824 FPS
Maximum frame rate : 62.500 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.064
Stream size : 9.33 GiB (98%)
Source stream size : 9.33 GiB (98%)
Color range : Full
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Codec configuration box : avcC
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC LC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
Duration : 2 h 46 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 161 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 193 MiB (2%)
Default : Yes
Alternate group : 1
YouTube:
General
Complete name : D:\YouTube\DDayCobra 199\DDayCobra 199 – 2024-01-30 – Fortnite – Zero Build – 199 Cobra Street, Dub City USA – YouTube.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
File size : 6.73 GiB
Duration : 2 h 46 min
Overall bit rate : 5 777 kb/s
Frame rate : 60.000 FPS
Writing application : Lavf60.3.100
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings : CABAC / 3 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference : 3 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 2 h 46 min
Bit rate : 5 636 kb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 60.000 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.045
Stream size : 6.56 GiB (98%)
Title : ISO Media file produced by Google Inc.
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Codec configuration box : avcC
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC LC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
Duration : 2 h 46 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 128 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 44.1 kHz
Frame rate : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 153 MiB (2%)
Title : ISO Media file produced by Google Inc.
Language : English
Default : Yes
Alternate group : 1
What are you basing better on? The bit rate? File size? I think that could possibly be different based on better compression.
Also, what were your player settings at the time?
Were these downloaded or caught in flight?
When you pull media from CDNs there are a lot of variables in play. Sometimes you can pull the same file a few times and get different results.
We must also consider if the uploader sent the exact same source media to both platforms.
These look very similar to me if not maybe identical.
Now if you watched them both on a good display and you saw a very noticeable quality difference that could for sure point to something. But just based off this file data I would not make that assumption.
There has also been a trend (I have seen it on the big video platforms) where file sizes have dropped in half. I am not certain if this is better compression or just a reduction of quality to reduce storage costs. Youtube might be participating in that.
Just my thoughts on it. Not saying you are wrong. I would love to continue to talk about it if you can answer my questions.