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    Ok first off I would like to say thanks to Jeremy and his team for making a site for fans to meet and discuss our love for our fandoms. That being said I have had a bone to pick since TLJ and ROS I am a lover of canon and dont mind when things overflow like in the expanded universe that being said when Disney purchased SW and the moved all the canon into the lore side of the universe so they could have a clean slate so things would not be muddled I respected that cause there was so much lore and me not getting into it till i was older there was no way for me to keep up with it. Now that the new sequel is finished I’m seeing so many continuity issues the biggest one for me is the bloodlines book that came out at the end of chapter 5 it talks about Leia having hunches that usually turn out to be right which Luke remarks as the force at work she just chalks it up to experience and common sense then when ROS comes out we see she trained as a jedi its like what the heck and the whole Mary Poppins thing it’s just a mess. Then to add insult to injury Lucasfilms says canon doesn’t matter to me that is a slap in the face and makes what they did to the old canon a total power move. Now maybe I’m reading way to far into it and this has become a ramble but that’s what makes us fans is the ability to discuss and pick up on the little things in what we like. Please excuse the long post it’s just been something I have been stewing on for 4 years. Thank you and goodnight!!

    #166531

    you are not wrong.

    #166566

    You’re preaching to the choir as far as I’m concerned

    #166652
    Anonymous

      I agree.

      #166842

      Disney couldn’t even keep their own work consistent. Early on after the release of episode 7 when many of us were still willing to give their trilogy the benefit of the doubt they released a book that included three stories offering a look into the background of Finn, Poe and Mary Sue Palpatine that was supposed to be canon. Poe was shown to be a Republic fighter pilot who was recruited into the Resistance, not the smuggler he was revealed to be in episode 9 when Disney were desperately trying to make him the new Han Solo.

      #166920

      Imo Canon & Lore mean absolutely nothing to Disney Lucasfilm they have that muppet Pablo Hidalgo saying what is or isn’t canon & Lore that its beginning to look like a huge pile of crap some idiot spewed out… Rey is 1 giant Lore & Canon destroying character all by herself….

      #167838

      Never read those. I gave up trying to read the rat canon after the chucky Wendigo books shit on everything known about the franchise.

      #167846

      Filoni fans will probably dump on me for saying this, but he was shitting on Star Wars canon before Disney ever took over. TCW, love it or hate it, pissed in the canon punch bowl for years.

      #167976

      Only real EU fans comprehend this.

      The rest I guess dont read.

      #167981

      I learned to accept TCW because of  The Father, The Son, and The Daughter and what they meant as part of the plot in Fate of the Jedi. And I admit, that was good stuff, but who was directly involved with that? Lucas himself, I believe. So that’s why it probably worked so well.

      #167984

      The main issue with Disney’s Star Wars Canon is that they de-canonized the original canon to install this new one.

      #168082

      I read the first of his Aftermath books and it is one of the worst I ever read. I don’t agree with the people who say he was trying to push his opinions in the book but it was so bad it was hard to tell what he was trying to do.

      #168229

      As bad as the first book was 2 & 3 were worse. They were nothing but pandering to alphabet bullshit and changing existing characters to fit the SJW Wars film.

      #169205

      I will never understand people that say The Clone Wars messed up canon. Lucas was involved in every story of The Clone Wars as much as Filoni was, so I see nothing wrong with any of the stories. As the creator, Lucas has every right to change small things in EU novels that don’t fit his vision of the universe. I get that some fans really like the EU stuff, but remember: anything but George Lucas’ material is pure fanfiction. Lucas’ story is true canon, even The Clone Wars.

      #169231

      You do realize the exact thing is true for the entire run of the EU? Don’t you? Lucas basically approved all of it before it went to each author, even demanded changes along the way so it fit his vision of the universe, just like he approved story lines in the TCW before they were sent to the writers’ room. The EU had Lucas’ prints all over it. The universe of the EU had countless elements of Lucas’ vision through out its make up, so to call it fanficion, especially when written by immensely talented authors is highly inaccurate.

       

      As executive producer Lucas was heavily involved for most of TCW, but Filoni was the driving force. So when EU folks, like myself, pick a bone with it, we pick it with Filoni. I believe there is on the record evidence that Lucas wanted  Ashoka to die along with the rest of the Jedi, but Filoni used every bit of power he had to keep his favorite plaything alive and kicking despite the wishes of Lucas. If we are defining everything by what Lucas wanted as part adhering to his vision of the Star Wars universe, then that has to be scratched out.

       

      But guess what, it isn’t, because it happened whether lots of us gave a shit or not. Having watched TCW  s01-s06 (I’m sorry, I’m not wasting my time with s07), I’ve admitted it isn’t all garbage, but it’s not this monumental work of art diehard TCW fans want to make it out to be. Stack it up against the entirety of the EU, going back to the Old Republic material as well, and I’m sorry, but that titular cartoon terror is insignificant to next to the power of the For…wait…sorry lost myself there for a moment.

       

      Bottom line, I wouldn’t rely on the old argument that it has to be Lucas to be real, because Lucas was involved with everything until Disney started firing everything out of its ass.

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