Ellen Page was violently punching herself in the face and hearing voices…
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I fondly remember the movie “Juno” that she is known for. It’s a cute quirky movie starring a cute quirky girl.
It’s sad to know how she has ended up. I feel for her as she apparently has deep seeded issues that I am fairly certain lopping off body parts did not solve.
She was recently in the news with the whole situation where she claims to have been attacked for being trans. Although ironically her new book happen to also release that very same day.
I understand there is a thing as dysphoria that some people absolutely deal with. But I find it hard to believe that if you cannot accept yourself as you were born that you can accept yourself after a doctor essentially mutilates working organs. To me the problem is not that you don’t look the way you wish, it’s that you cannot accept yourself in the first place.
EDIT – I was just checking DailyMail and I notice several articles about Page. Many “woe is me” articles. I am sure that is all about the book.
“Almost every treatment has its use, even amputation.”
Amputation is to remove a portion of the body because it is no longer functional or is diseased. “Sex Changes” remove working organs and often result in sterilization and log term complications. Add hormone therapy to that and you get more complications and more sterilization. I am not sure I would consider intentionally harming the body in the short and long term a treatment.
“I don’t think it’s ethical to judge a person’s medical choices unless one has access to their entire medical history, both pre and post treatment.”
I think forming an opinion is fine so long as you are not trying to force it on others. Looking the other way and blindly accepting anything anyone wants to do as valid is how we got here.
“There’s almost no such thing as a bad treatment, only the wrong treatment.”
So lobotomies were simply just the wrong treatment?
“In medicine, there is a an old saying: “He who cures, is right.”
I can see that being the case. But obviously the “cure” being sold here (while possibly appropriate for a small group of people) is snake oil for most. Snake oil that ruins you for life.
Much if not most of this modern gender BS is based off the “work” of John Money. And we now know that to be a horror story that was lied about for decades.
Oh come on. There’s a limit to what nonsense one can believe in. A belief in god can at least be somewhat rationalized. Complexity of the universe and improbability of life. That’s a fair argument to make.
But believing in demons? Come on…
Btw where in Atheism does it say that humans are the end all? Quite the contrary. Read some Nietzsche. The whole Ubermensch concept states explicitly that humans are not the end all, but rather a potential first step in an endless evolution towards greatness.
‘Man is something that shall be overcome. What have you done to overcome him? … All beings so far have created something beyond themselves; and do you want to be the ebb of this great flood, and even go back to the beasts rather than overcome man? What is the ape to man? A laughingstock or embarrassment. And man shall be that to Übermensch. You have made your way from worm to man, and much in you is still worm. Once you were apes, and even now, too, man is more ape than any ape.
… Man is a rope, tied between beast and Übermensch—a rope over an abyss … what is great in man is that he is a bridge and not an end.’
-Nietzsche
Once you look where you dared not look, Atheism is deeper and more meaningful than all superstitions combined. It is the door to truth and purpose.
Feel free to mock and condescend all you wish. That does not make you any more correct than anyone else it just makes you feel that way.
“Oh come on. There’s a limit to what nonsense one can believe in”
I am certain if you told people prior to the late 1600’s that there were tiny organisms they could not see all around them and in them they probably would have laughed and also referred to that as nonsense. In fact if I understand it correctly the scientists at the time initially rebuked the assertion of such a thing. But now that is common knowledge. So unless you are willing to concede to the thought that we now know everything we will ever know then just about anything is possible. This does not mean to believe anything. This means being open to things.
“Btw where in Atheism does it say that humans are the end all?”
I did not state it did. My point was at this time it functionally thinks humans are considered the end all be all. Are you saying there is a document stating the rules of atheism? That sounds like a Bible.
“Once you look where you dared not look, Atheism is deeper and more meaningful than all superstitions combined.”
Yes, clearly since I believe in a creator I must be an uneducated moron and have never looked outside my window because only the truly intelligent and enlightened people are smart enough to believe that everything came from nothing and that nothing magically arranged itself into everything all by itself through billions of years of “happy accidents”.
I find the though that the totality of existence is only what human’s can conceive of an intellectual cop out as you are unwilling to consider anything you cannot currently explain. If every human through time had that thought process we would still be living in caves.
My ultimate point here is the assumption that anyone or anything is so correct as they cannot be challenged is wrong. People can discuss and even disagree without being dismissive. It is not only possible it is very healthy for a person and society.
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