Facts – Tom MacDonald (feat. Ben Shapiro)

I don’t listen to rap anymore, nor most of corporate media.

This interview is interesting. Talib was the type of guy who drove me away from rap forever. Hate came from his mouth for decades. Rap went from creative to just really a downer in terms of just being about quarreling, strife and conflict. Kweli literally shows up with his handler and puts out talking points like a house slave. He says some Orange Man Bad is Hitler and cries about the holocaust, calls Tom racist and then, says that he is offended, while Handler DJ Vlad nods in approval at the Chuck Schumer checklist he gave this puppet.

It’s amusing to me that MacDonald is better than a lot of the guys out there because I know so many who tried for a career in that industry and never made it. In my opinion, Soul Train was cancelled because rap killed the fun in music and it became violent and aggressive and ruined the party overall. As much as I like the song, real people on the right need to be aware of gatekeepers, posers and pretenders. Yeah, I do concur that the culture war is important and unfortunately, rap is a part of that because we have a post-industrial country that is about to lose it’s civilization to looting invaders and corrupt politicians, which Ben seems to have no problem with, and he stated such.

These guys said they wanted to interview Tom MacDonald on their channel. I think he should do it. Also, wanna say that Bryson Gray and Loza and the other MAGA rappers definitely made their presence felt, so I am partially grateful for some of the influencers out there who are trying to be positive.

Why would anyone listen to Ben? He does not care about you.
I’ll listen to Nick, who is yet another guy that Shapiro won’t debate facts with.

I don’t listen to rap anymore and really, should not have in the first place. Growing up, there was some weird implied notion that we were supposed to somehow understand the black experience in America and they made us read Raisin in the Sun as part of the brainwashing. On the side, my folks actually told me to go ahead and read about Malcolm X and see the movie and all that. No one ever said why. If anything, there is a clear delineation and separation. If Talib has a problem now, he should have spoke up a long time ago when this stuff was being marketed and promoted.

Look back now, much older, I have to post this legend and this classic. The one guy who’s albums I never bought because I was on the west coast. Kind of regret not listening to him, but it’s too late now. Rakim. Also, the material that I consider real hiphop, a lot of it is right out of Nation of Islam. Rakim and Ladybug Mecca really stood the test of time. I was never into Public Enemy and that is the group that NOI seems to focus on.

Really though, some people just like the light-hearted, funny, witty and creative part of it and it was good to see Will Smith posted. No matter how many people accuse you of hate, if you have something to say, then, say it. There’s no question that the medium of hiphop was hijacked. Ice Cube says so himself and I never liked Cube or Ice-T. May have listened to them, but really, never liked them. What bothers me is when I hear good people brag about how their kids know all the words to some vulgarian like Too Short or 2 Live Crew. I actually regret listening to a lot of this stuff because it’s not my notion of civilization and culture. The peoples really are different.

<p><p>Early 80s hip/hop rap is the best IMO. A lot of it was intelligent heartfelt social commentary on life in the black community. Coincidentally that was also the time of the Break-dancing craze and a lot of the artists jumped on the bandwagon and the lyrics began to suffer.<br /><br /></p><p>I would argue 90’s and early 2000’s is better because of the advancement in rhyming. In the early 80’s most rhyme schemes were mostly simple ABAB or AABB rhymes at the end of the sentence while Rakim pioneered internal rhyme schemes and multi-syllable rhyming, and I feel like it was perfected around 1992-2003. With MC’s like Nas, Biggie, Tupac, Eminem, Royce da 5’9, Jay-Z, Mobb Deep etc. After 2003 hiphop went through a weird poppy phase and now it’s mostly dominated by rappers on lean whose lyrical content is non existent and a song is carried by how hard the beat is</p></p>

• This reply was modified 12 months ago by SuperSoynic_Speed.

Really though, some people just like the light-hearted, funny, witty and creative part of it and it was good to see Will Smith posted. No matter how many people accuse you of hate, if you have something to say, then, say it. There’s no question that the medium of hiphop was hijacked. Ice Cube says so himself and I never liked Cube or Ice-T. May have listened to them, but really, never liked them. What bothers me is when I hear good people brag about how their kids know all the words to some vulgarian like Too Short or 2 Live Crew. I actually regret listening to a lot of this stuff because it’s not my notion of civilization and culture. The peoples really are different.

Well said sir.  I talked about that above a little bit, I saw the same thing.

Ice Cube I have always liked.  Much of his music I don’t care for but some I like.  He has his own style that he has never strayed from like Snoop (I like his older stuff).  Ice-T was always super gangsta and I never cared for that.  Ice-T wrote “Cop Killer” which at the time people were horrified by.  And decades later we see the fruits of that sort of stuff.  This is MASSIVELY ironic as Ice-T played a cop on Law and Order for years.  He did a good job too but clearly that’s in start contrast to prior.

2 Live Crew is still shockingly gross and nasty.  But you are right, that crap influenced young people and harmed society in a way.  That’s not to say it should be banned or they should be silenced.  I blame the decay of morality on people going for that stuff more than that stuff decaying morality but it does end up spiraling out of control.

I danced to this in a talent show in the early 90’s.  I still know all the words. That’s how racist we were back then.  A white guy, in a white school, in a white town dancing and singing to a black guy while white people cheered.  Man we were so racist. Glad it’s better now.