Oliver Anthony – Rich Men North Of Richmond

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    Vknid
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      Great song in content and and sound.  Dude has a hell of a voice.  And I want folks to listen to this and see how one can truly describe the despair of current times and NEVER mention a party or a tribe.  This should make the only “division” that matters VERY clear.

      Also, this is what country SHOULD sound like.

       

      #304615

      Thank you for making a thread on this topic. First real song I’ve heard in a very long time that kind of broke into the mainstream. Most lyrical music I listen to is very underground.

      Matt Walsh mentions Taylor Swift. Yep. That’s who I hear when I go out. All the time. It’s become very monotonous. He also talks about artificial music. I like the A.I. videos, but can truly see where things are headed. Psychedelic festival imagery with colors and shapes. I’m overstimulated enough as it is and do not think I can handle the VR world we are entering.

      Some people say this isn’t country or jazz, but Bluegrass or folk instead. I can accept that. Who he reminds me of is the really old cats before my time that I’ve never even heard. As he plays that resonator, I think about Robert Johnson, although I’ve never heard him. Luke makes a really good pt. about how, in the past, a blue collar song would be celebrated, but now, the media shills for the rich. Everyone has kind of done that. They’ve sold out to the illusion of riches, thinking they are gonna get a pat on the head from some billionaire if they use neo-pronouns on themselves and push weird gender stuff on kids. The song mentions the island. What courage! Notice how none of the big stars from the 60s have said anything relevant to real America.

      One comment I saw somewhere mentioned anti-Bush hiphop. They were right back then and who cancelled all that? Obama. And now, with Biden, the anti-war folks are silenced by the media. There are theories that every war from the Cold War to the Gulf War was staged to fleece the public of the nations. A trick and a ripoff. I’d say the biggest disappointment was the infiltration of rap. At one time, it was very serious. Now? Not relevant anymore. As soon as they start the spirit-cooking stuff, you can bail on the genre.

      Saw another funny comment that said something like TFW you get more news from a country song than you do from your TV.

      #304660
      Vknid
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        “Some people say this isn’t country or jazz, but Bluegrass or folk instead. I can accept that.”

        If you take a can of peas and a can of peaches, rip off the labels and swap them.  Does it change the contents?

        The label does not matter.

        This type of music has been around for a very long time and it’s great to see a return of it.  Personally I would call it folksy not because of how is sounds so much as how it tells a story and or expresses an emotion or situation of the human condition.  In this case, “the working man”,  which is a fairly popular theme as people in power have crapped on them/us for forever.  What we see in this country is not really new, it’s just a lot more of it and it’s exponentially increasing.

         

        #304667

        The Oliver Anthony song just comes from a certain place inside that a lot of people can relate to. The comments section is even better. All the folks working, but aren’t getting ahead and they never will. I’ve met people in the 1% (the 1% is >250K per year) that told me they will never be able to retire, and never plan to. I saw comments from truckers, machinists, veterans, HVAC labor, etc. that said they have to work two and three jobs. I even know Californians that make over 100K, that live out of their car because shelter simply takes everything they make, which is why so many people moved out. Meanwhile, the welfare class fills shopping carts to the brim until product falls on the floor and they feed steak to their dogs. The working people in line behind them have a can of soup.

        Oliver Anthony did pull off a great song and it makes me think about the actor’s strike and how today’s actors don’t seem to be able to tap into the same emotion as this singer did. A lot of actors are beneficiaries of nepotism and out of touch with the raw emotional triggers that it takes to pull of something like this.

        Will say though that I did not grow up on country, but am listening to it far more now. I listen to underground protest music, but not much of it is very good. Once it gets commercialized or co-opted, that’s when you know it’s over. I can’t listen to most rap or punk today, because none of them had the courage to challenge the lockdowns are the people who really control things in this country. I used to think they had guts, but once the left got power, it seems like all that went away. All the protest music.

        As for Guthrie, I did not grow up with him, so never heard his stuff. The algo suggested another named Pete Seeger. I don’t know these people. Will also say that I have not been able to get into the electronic DJ techno that people listen to at psychedelic festivals. I can’t relate to mobs of people that show up for a DJ. Like at a Rave or something. Not for me at all. It’s very inorganic, artificial and robotic.

        Guthrie and Anthony share something in common, which is their music is vague. It does not name any names. I think people are hungry for something more than is being offered by the Rich Men song. Hiphop really dropped the ball. I am not even a rap fan, but it has vastly more potential in telling catchy stories of facts and truth. Probably was my biggest disappointment when Roy Shivers didn’t stick with the rap music.

        #304668

        Have been watching all the reaction videos to Oliver Anthony. One guy made a good point about how Rage Against the Machine just kind of went away. They all did because of Obama and they never really returned. The biggest let down for me though was growing up on hiphop and seeing it go downhill and stop really saying anything. You’d think there would be rap songs about Goldman Sachs, for example.

        #304669

        OK, last one, and huge apologies.
        I really was fortunate enough to hear some amazing protest music. Even if I didn’t agree with all of it, there were some points that I agreed with.

        Thinking man’s music never seemed to really make it, so when one breaks thru, like in the case of Oliver Anthony, you do kind of wonder if things are changing. It’s not like the youth are dumb. I do not think that at all. Guess I just had more expectations for what music was capable of.

        #306047

        Not sure where to put this. This is something I would have listened to.
        There’s also that rapper Loza Alexander.

        #306049
        Vknid
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          @comicsgate

          Rage Against the Machine I think came back later as “Prophets of Rage” but they are pretty far left now which is why I suspect no one hears from them as they no longer make sense.  I know they came out during covid all in favor of masks and supporting mandates and such.  I refer to them now as “Prophets of Compliance”.  Maybe also “Rage For the Machine”.  :P

          I think expression through music during hard times has been par for the course.  It’s just that now most music is churned out of a machine and often times in defense of the machine.  Folks like Woody Guthrie and Johnny Cash in modern day would never be allowed to get any where near a record label.

           

           

           

          #306091

          I’ve never been a fan of country music, but I find it hilarious when Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande etc are topping Billboard’s weekly charts everyone in the comments is going ”(insert artist name) world domination, yessssss slayyyyy queen” but recently the top 3 has been all country music and the same people go ”this is fraud why is Swift not in top 3, music is falling off, never heard of these clowns”

          #306765

          Definitely like what the new generation gets to grow up on. Oliver Anthony, Tom McDonald, Loza Alexander, Bryson and this guy Samson.
          Oliver Anthony has good tunes, but that one really touched a nerve. The thing about that kind of music is, you can only go so far, but I think there is an edge and a line they just won’t cross. You wonder what intel they really have and what they really know.

          #307481

          I like the song…

          ‘Nuff said.

          #307822

          LISTEN: ‘There Ain’t No Rock and Roll’ Song Rips Music Industry for Big Pharma Sellout.
          Five Times August have dropped a powerful new track taking aim at the music industry and singling out performers including Mick Jagger, John Legend, and the Foo Fighters by name, for selling out to Big Pharma and the lockdown agenda during the Wuhan virus pandemic.

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          #318445

          This one goes out to Anthony Blinken. Suspended elections in Ukraine. All our money looted for war. Protesters jailed and debanked with no charges.
          Open borders. Invading armies being brought it to slaughter westerners like in Gaza.

          Keep on Rockin Blinken and Mayorkas. Bibi and Zelensky. Looting and jailing.

           

          #319465

          can’t even imagine listening to mainstream rap.
          Always thought hiphop was capable of so much more
          Wish this guy would’ve stuck with it, but people prefer stupid material.
          I need more of this. Real informative, but for modern times.

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