[ROAS] CD Projekt Red Announces The Witcher 4! This Game Needs to be PERFECT!
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- March 21, 2022 at 6:49 pm #260713March 21, 2022 at 8:42 pm #260719
can’t be hyped for this.
it’s not the same team anymore… most of the original guys moved on to indie companies.
way too many purple hair weirdos in cd projekt red right now.
March 22, 2022 at 4:23 am #260722I think calling for something to be perfect is over the top because it is an unattainable goal.
Witcher 3 was an awesome game, so is Cyberpunk. Now clearly they botched the release of Cyberpunk but it ended up to be a great game. Although I love a good game story more than anything else so I might be biased.
March 22, 2022 at 9:11 am #260727@Vknid I obviously cannot comment on whether or not CP 2077 is a good game, because I haven’t played it. But in the end, I think it’s final quality is irrelevant to my point, because we live in a world of first impressions. Dragon Age 2 ended up being a good game, but it is forever tarnished and shat upon for its poor launch. CP 2077 as a game has been pretty much memory holed at this point, but not its crap launch.
Witcher 4 has to hit every mark on launch, because right now CDPR has the label of crummy launches in this current gen of gaming. They need to prove they can still get it right from the start. So no, I don’t think I’m over the top in saying the game needs to be perfect at launch, because CDPR’s image as a dev right now is crap. They have no room for error. If they screw up Witcher 4, they are done.
March 22, 2022 at 9:53 am #260732You went from over the top to hyperbolic. If they mislaunch Wither 4 they are done? CP 2077 was memory holed? Hardly.
Now I am not saying your complaints about the launches and that their missteps are not missteps but to say only that first impressions matter is in my summation short sighted. That’s a purely media view, something a game journo would say because that’s all they see or care about.
All that being said, yes, a bad launch would hurt. But I don’t think CP 2077 was simply a bad launch. They misrepresented the game. That was worse. That’s what they have to avoid I think beyond anything else this time.
All in all, I hope it’s a great game to be honest. But I NEVER pre-order and I wait for reviews before I plunk my cash down. I did this with CP 2077 and only got it AFTER it was fixed.
March 22, 2022 at 12:26 pm #260750You went from over the top to hyperbolic.
What?
How?
I’m talking honest logic here and total facts that you have only added to, because I didn’t even go that far in my point.
It’s not over the top to want something to be perfect. It’s called having high expectations. Is that always a good thing, no, but if you have high expectations and whomever you are dealing with under promises and over delivers, then you get what you were hoping for because it will then be more than you told to expect. Is it all perception, sure, but there is nothing over the top wanting the best, asking for the best, then getting something that feels the best if the company didn’t pretend it was going to be something else.
See No Man’s Sky. Doesn’t matter if they rebooted the game, it never recovered. Everyone will forever hate Hello Games for the lies.
Good for you for waiting to get CP 2077. You didn’t waste your money. Doesn’t change the FACT that no one talks about CP 2077 or is excited for more with possibly a small collective of diehards who were either always sold at the beginning or came in late like yourself and decided to go for the ride. 2077 will never shake its label. Don’t pretend otherwise.
You yourself just said that CDPR over promised and under delivered at launch, therefore, they screwed up. How is anything I said hyperbolic, which it isn’t, when you totally proved my point yourself?
CDPR had a great reputation, and it is only because of the past that people will still give them another chance. But they will likely only get that one more chance if they screw people over on Witcher 4.
Because of CP 2077 Witcher 4 unfortunately must live up to unreasonable expectations of perfection, which is why I said it has to be perfect, because there is no room for error. No one is going to white knight for CDPR anymore, and the slightest thing wrong people, right or wrong, will savage Witcher 4 because of their feeling wronged with CP 2077. Again, is that fair or right? Of course not, but people have the right to their emotions, desires, and expectations, and CDPR has only themselves to blame for this situation.
Why do you think they are going with Unreal 5? A reliable engine, by all accounts. If they at least are using an engine that will work, they can count on the game not falling apart.
March 22, 2022 at 2:49 pm #260755Firstly, please realize we are just conversating here about a fun topic. I am not trying to insult or offend. This is discussion, not an argument.
Now, everything you say is true IF we are talking ONLY about public perception. However, I think there is more to the story than that and to only speak of initial impressions is to sell something short. But you are correct in that many folks don’t go beyond that but I firmly believe that is a mistake.
I got to have a lot of fun playing CP 2077 because I looked beyond first impressions. Many will miss out because they chose to only look at the launch.
In the end though I think one of your thoughts is on point. Will it sink them if Witcher launches poorly? Not totally but it will indeed harm them. Let’s hope there is no subterfuge on this one and comes off ok.
March 22, 2022 at 9:00 pm #260785@Roas, actually No Mans Sky kinda recovered very well :P Has one of the best communities right now. Sure, it took a long time, but they got it right. The game is great and with constant new free content. And they’re not AAA.
I can’t trust this new CD Projekt Red… they’re a mess. And they became woke.
March 23, 2022 at 1:49 am #260790I think both of you are right. I think a game can recover from a bad launch but it still does ding the company when there is a bad launch and it still does hurt overall sales.
I personally was unaware they went woke. I am sorry to hear that. That does not bode well for their future or Witcher 4.
March 23, 2022 at 7:50 pm #260922@Vknid , well, at least most of their staff on social media are woke right now. The games, so far, are okay, Cyberpunk was not woke, despite having some woke dialogues here and there, especially with Judy (they make her hetero attractive but limit her only to lesbians lmao, and if you try to romance, she calls you a creep xD).
But we can see in their social media they usually pander to woke movements and even their community now is full of sjws. So I’m kinda expecting their new games to be woke.
March 24, 2022 at 3:09 am #260955There was at least one other “gay reference” in CP 2077. There is a man you make friends with (River Ward), he is a cop and a big tough guy type. You help out him and his family and just become friends. In one of the final scenes with him when you are chilling with him and having beers you have the option to kiss him. I thought that was odd and forced as there was zero indication there was anything like that going on.
But there is a romantic hetero relationship with Panam Palmer which they go pretty deep into ( there is even a sex scene) and apart from the odd sex scene it was a cool relationship in the game.
March 24, 2022 at 3:59 am #260956Yeah, Panam is hot haha that booty ;)
March 24, 2022 at 9:33 am #260963Not only that (yes she is smokin) but that might have been my favorite story line of the game. It was very diverse and you got to get out of the city and do a lot of different things.
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