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    Russian missiles crossed into NATO member Poland, killing 2: U.S. official

    A senior U.S. intelligence official says Russian missiles crossed into NATO member Poland, killing two people.

    Polish government spokesperson Piotr Mueller did not immediately confirm the information, but said top leaders were holding an emergency meeting due to a “crisis situation.”

    Where did it reportedly hit?

    Polish media reported that two people died Tuesday afternoon after a projectile struck an area where grain was drying in Przewodow, a Polish village near the border with Ukraine.

    Why?

    Russia rained missiles on cities across Ukraine on Tuesday in what Ukraine said was the heaviest wave of missile strikes in nearly nine months…

    So it over shot its target by mistake.

    Does anyone else thing that the Dems and NATO will waste little time to declare the alliance was attacked and declare a FULL WAR verse Russia?

    It seems they have been getting ready for such for a long time now, and could not wait for an excuse to attack Russia/Putin more directly.

     

    I do hope cooler heads prevail, as the last thing the world needs is war of such magnitude, going into the cold winters of Europe (expect zero gas from Russia if Nato declares WAR).

     

    What all has everyone else been hearing?

    #286844
    Vknid
    Moderator

      The powers that be in the US and in the west want a war so bad they can taste it.  A war with Russia would make the Pfizer money look like a child’s piggy bank.

      Yeah, videos are coming out now.  I see multiple already.

       

      • This reply was modified 2 years, 3 months ago by Vknid.
      #286848
      Mustangride1
      Moderator

        Nothing going to Happen. Article 5 will not be invoked as this was an “Accident” Most likely financial repercussions at best. NATO has no teeth and never had them really. This will prove that beyond all doubt, as this could be used as a way to say we are now putting a stop to it, pull out of Ukraine in 72 hours and cease all hostilities or we will invoke article 5… Or they could use it to force the UN to put an end to it… But they wont. this is all about and mount to nothing in the end.

        No one wants MAD to happen.

        #286850
        Vknid
        Moderator

          I read something a few mins ago about it possibly being a stray missile that the Ukrainians shot down or attempted to.

          #286854

          I agree with Mustangride1, nothing’s gonna come out of this.

          The War Mongers just want an excuse to siphon money into a “legitimate” cause without getting caught.

          Actual war is too complicated and will lead to real financial and political consequences for anyone foolish enough to get directly involved.

          #286870

          I read something a few mins ago about it possibly being a stray missile that the Ukrainians shot down or attempted to.

          And you know the legacy media will not be repeating that.

          All they are going to be saying is “Russian missile strikes NATO Nation of Poland”.

          Other than all the money the military industrial complex can make off of a “WAR”, isn’t it also a point in US politics that if a US president goes to war, that almost guarantees a second term in office?

          There is so much more happening that we are not being told.

           

          #286884

          Poland is verifying if it needs to request consultations under Article 4 of the NATO military alliance treaty, a government spokesman said on Tuesday, after a report that a blast that killed two people near the Ukrainian border was caused by stray Russian missiles.

          Stray or a failed missile interceptor/knocked off course-not blown up in the sky?

          Article 4 allows NATO members to bring any issue of concern, especially regarding security, for discussion at the North Atlantic Council.

          What else is happening?

          Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia on Tuesday took aim at Russia for the missile strike in Poland that left two dead in the border town of Przewodow, just a few kilometers from Ukraine, and said that NATO territory must be defended from external attacks.

          Three former soviet satelite nations calling for… war against their former masters.

          The promise not to expand NATO towards Russia has proven false.

          Just like WWI and WWII, alliances and such will bring nations against nations.

          No one is a winner, but warmongers.

          I do hope it does not happen, but I will not hold my breathe.

          #286890
          Mustangride1
          Moderator

            So Biden is saying “Biden: ‘Unlikely’ missile that hit Poland fired from Russia”

            Like I said, Nato is toothless. I can promise you they know who launched it and where. There is Both Satellite and AWACS 24/7 in the area. The articles I am reading sound like they are all trying to do everything but use Article 5.  Way to prove what people for decades have said about NATO.

            No I do not want war, But an article 5 mobilization combined with the ultimatum before the UN that unless Russia ceases all aggression in Ukraine and pulls all its troops out, NATO will have no alternative but to honor article 5 and view this as an Attack by Russia escalating the war.

             

             

            #286912
            Vknid
            Moderator

              I hope you are right Mustang, I do not want a nuclear war nor even a conventional WW3.  The war pigs need to be ousted and this Ukraine nonsense needs to stop before something horrible on a worldwide scale occurs.

              I am sick to death of politics, politicians and the elite making billions off the taxpayer through illicit means.

              #286919
              Mustangride1
              Moderator

                Aint going to be a Nuclear War. Remember the dumbass in the White House is the ONLY one who said not to going after OBL. He has no spine and if not for his depends there would have been shit on the floor when he was told.

                They are so spineless (all of them) they will not even use this Golden Goose opportunity to use the threat of Article 5 to stop the War in Ukraine and try to return Peace to Europe.  The UN and NATO both need to be abolished, they are toothless and useless.

                #286923

                NATO says no evidence of ‘deliberate attack’ in deadly Poland incident near Ukraine border

                U.S., Poland, Russia indicate damage likely caused by Ukraine air defence missile

                The Brussels gathering was chaired by Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, who later told the media there was “no indication that this was the result of a deliberate attack.” There was no evidence that Russia had launched an offensive attack on a NATO member, he said.

                Stoltenberg said it appeared that the missile that landed on a grains facility in Poland was a Ukrainian air defence missile.

                Nice how quickly the legacy media was spreading fake news and misinformation!

                Russia on Wednesday attributed the damage to a Ukrainian air defence missile, and said that Russian strikes in Ukraine had been no closer than 35 kilometres from the Polish border.

                “The photos published in the evening of Nov. 15 in Poland of the wreckage found in the village of Przewodow are unequivocally identified by Russian defence industry specialists as elements of an anti-aircraft guided missile of the S-300 air defence system of the Ukrainian air force,” the Russian defence ministry said in a statement.

                Surprising how THAT was left out of the news reports.

                 

                The media WANTS people to jump to conclusions BEFORE all the facts are told/found.

                #286936
                Vknid
                Moderator

                  I heard a report that Zelensky was immediately calling for retaliation against Russia.

                  #286939

                  I heard a report that Zelensky was immediately calling for retaliation against Russia.

                  Using a false flag operation to get an expanded war?

                  The west (and the US) would not fall for such… ~cough cough~WMD~cough cough~ to carry out a war against another nation, or would they?

                  I am very surprised how the US and most of NATO waited for more information before they made a statement on this new development.

                  #287021

                  NATO row breaks out as Zelensky savaged for ‘destructive lies’ over Poland missile

                   NATO, Warsaw and the US all said they believed the missile was “likely” fired by Ukraine…

                  As the mounting evidence is proving.

                  But Mr Zelensky would not budge on the issue, insisting that a report he received from the incident left him certain that it was “not our missile or our missile strike”.

                  Well, that report is FALSE.

                  His statements have reportedly irked at least one Kyiv-based diplomat from a NATO country, who told the Financial Times: “This is getting ridiculous. The Ukrainians are destroying [our] confidence in them. Nobody is blaming Ukraine and they are openly lying. This is more destructive than the missile.”

                  The Ukrainian Regime wants more than just “financial” support, they want actual troops and an expanded war.

                  The Kremlin denied responsibility for the missile, claiming that not only was the missile that struck Poland not theirs, their weapons had not targeted anywhere near the Polish border…

                  So who is lying?  The evidence is point to Zelensky and his government as being the liars.

                  NATO, the US and Warsaw all declared that while initial reports suggested the missile was fired from Russia, they now believed the missile’s origin was likely from Ukraine as a defensive measure against the Russian air strikes.

                  That is why, waiting for the FACTS is so important.

                  However, Mr Zelensky continues to insist that the missile was Russia’s, pointing to an “evening report to me personally, from the commander of the air force to commander-in-chief [of Ukraine’s military] Zaluzhny”, which he said confirms “that it was not our missile or our missile strike”.

                  The president added: “It makes no sense for me not to trust them, I’ve gone through the war with them.”

                  Well, those findings were wrong.

                  Either your intelligence gathering agency is extremely faulty, or your commander-in-chief deliberately gave you a false report in the hopes of expanding the war to include NATO nations.

                  The NATO leader stated that the responsibility still lies with Russia for the missile hit. He said: “This is not Ukraine’s fault. Russia bears responsibility for what happened in Poland yesterday because this is a direct result of the ongoing war, and the wave of attacks from Russia against Ukraine yesterday.

                  Oh, really?  Then who is at fault for the cause of this war?

                  Russia says Ukraine invasion «would not be necessary» if US had «put pressure on Kiev in time»

                  Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Thursday that the invasion of Ukraine “would not have been necessary” if the U.S. government had exerted its influence on Kiev and “put pressure on the country in time.”

                  You mean, if the war mongers in DC wanted to stop a war BEFORE a war started?

                  “Washington says that if there were no Russian shelling there would not have been the downing of an S-300 of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Poland. But if you follow this logic, then one would have to review the situation in another direction and one would have to conclude that if there had not been a total unwillingness on the part of the United States and NATO to address Russia’s concerns, there would not have been a special military operation in Ukraine,” he asserted.

                  And what was part of those concerns?

                  “If the United States and the Alliance had put pressure on the Kiev regime and had given guarantees that they would not carry out a new civil war and an attack against their own population in two already independent republics, then there would be no special operation,” he said, referring to the name given to the invasion by the Russian government.

                  Something the legacy media refused to report on, and how the bombardment/military actions on those Russian speaking areas had continued to the point where Kremlin decided they had to act to protect them.

                  As always, there is more to the story than the media WANTS to let you know.

                  If the diplomats ALL did their jobs, Putin would not have felt the need to protect those Russians with this special military operation in Ukraine.

                  If…

                  I blame ALL for this.

                  The West, the US, Ukraine, Russia, NATO, etc.

                  This war could easily have been prevented, if all wanted PEACE.

                  Sadly, that is not what we got.

                   

                   

                  #287035
                  Vknid
                  Moderator

                    Whhhhaaaattt?  I was told on good authority that Zelensky could walk on water, cure the blind and his tears regrow limbs.  Surely this is not true.

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