Terrorists Hamas launches war on Isreal

Anything further on Gaza hospital explosion?

Initially the pro-Palestine crowd were blaming the IDF. Since then evidence has pointed to a misfired weapon originating from within Gaza itself.

Imagine killing your own people and then trying to shift the blame onto your enemies. What a way to lose credibility.

Thanks…tried following up on the story but the media seems to have moved on to “newer” topics.

@comicsgate

The church WAS NOT bombed. It was a nearby building.  However, that building was destroyed and people did die.

I am not certain why Israel is supposedly evil for civilians dying without intention while Hamas not only targets them intentionally but uses their own people as shields essentially daring Israel to bomb their military installations that are full of civilians.

There is all the difference in the world between civilians getting caught up in war and intentionally putting them in harms way or outright killing them.

To be shocked some civilians die in war is to not understand war.

“You don’t know the horrible aspects of war. I’ve been through two wars and I know. I’ve seen cities and homes in ashes. I’ve seen thousands of men lying on the ground, their dead faces looking up at the skies. I tell you, war is Hell!” — William Tecumseh Sherman

https://www.vaticannews.va/en/church/news/2023-10/churches-condemn-air-strike-on-greek-orthodox-building-in-gaza.html

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@comicsgate

I am not sure what you consider yourself as it relates to politics.  But memes like that are the same type of propaganda the left puts out.  It’s the same poison pill they offer in every argument.  They point to the a small truth and tell you the lie baked around it is true because of the kernel of truth.

Do we give Israel money?  Sure.  But we give A LOT of people money.  In fact, even in this conflict, we fund both sides.

Was it Israel’s plan to send us Muslim refugees?  I doubt is seriously because that’s probably not something they are all that concerned about.  And would it matter?  Our own government is letting in hundreds of thousands monthly and that has NOTHING to do with Israel.

Like a radical leftist, you frame the one tiny part you wish to so as to satiate your hatred and forward your agenda. But if you look at the whole picture in the proper context your pixel of truth becomes insignificant.

Hate who you want.  By all means, shout it at the top of your lungs so everyone knows where you stand.  But tell the truth when you do it, otherwise you are simply a propagandist telling lies like many others.

• This reply was modified 1 year, 2 months ago by Vknid.

So, the US sends financial aid to Israel so they can, for example, create a way to protect themselves and their people from daily missle attacks, and somehow that means it’s Israel’s fault when Muslims decide to immigrate, legally or not, to the US? Sorry, but I’m not seeing how that makes sense.

Or, somehow, it’s Israel’s fault because Muslims keep fighting among themselves, which caused a refugee crisis which some Muslims took advantage of for economic purposes (“Hey, Germany’s going to give us free stuff, w0o-hoo!”) and to work towards taking over more and more of Europe (“Let’s add a few more neighborhoods to our no-go zone.”)? Again, not seeing the connection.

I use the word hatred because that is EXACTLY what you display.  When someone repeatedly issues assertions or accusations with high emotion, no evidence and very little train of thought it is clear what the case is.  I use the term not because I am repeating it, but because I know what it means and I am using it appropriately.

You have given zero evidence of anything.  All you have done is over and over and over said Israel bad and Ukraine bad.

Agreed on the Ukraine thing.  We SHOULD NOT be giving them anything nor should we be involved in the least.

With Israel, that is slightly different but again, not our fight.  This does not mean we cannot call it for what it is or decide what actions are right or wrong.  No one has to support anything or anyone unconditionally, all actions should be judged individually.

Your concern with Israel as it relates to immigration makes ZERO sense.  The US government is allowing in (and encouraging) hundreds of thousands monthly.  That has NOTHING to do with Israel.  That is akin to your house flooding due to a busted pipe and being more concerned about if you remembered to turn the sink off in the kitchen.  Your problem there (and it is ABSOLUTELY a problem) is the US government, NOT Israel or anyone from an ocean away.

If you think Israel is just out there looking to kill every Palestinian and commit “genocide” or whatever propaganda term you heard today you would be highly incorrect based on current evidence now and historically.  Israel has gone out their way to not kill civilians.  That is nearly unprecedented in war.  Israel has enough weaponry to turn Palestine into a sheet of glass a few times over.  If they just wanted to kill everyone they could have and quite easily and they could have done it a long time ago.  Anyone using the term genocide needs to learn how to critically think.  If that was the plan all along than Israel is horrible at genocide as they have had 75 years to do it.

I saw an interview with a man whom was supposedly a son of the founder of Hamas.  We can argue about the validity of that but the details he gave and his explanation of his path away from Hamas makes it seem real to me.  But he said something that I believe is the case regardless of who he is.

He explained that the deaths of Palestinian people are not on the hands of Israel but on Hamas.  Hamas are the ones who decided to slaughter civilians knowing full well what reaction that would bring.  They did not care.  Why?  They hate Israeli’s but they also don’t care about Palestinians.  Which is why they use them as shields.  They simply don’t care if their own people die.  Period.