The US, UK and Canada are already under authoritarian rule

“A democracy is only a democracy at election time. After that it’s an illusion.”

I would say that in pure and uncorrupt forms this is not the case.

However, at this point, even elections are they themselves corrupt often times.

“Probably, but we live in reality not la-la land.”

Well since I mentioned our current situation is one where elections are suspect I think I demonstrated that very thought.

Democracy, or let’s say any form of a free people can exist.  This does not mean it’s perfect, nothing is.  But do such things end up being corrupt?  Yes, but this happens not always due to a weakness in the system but in people as evil folks are the corrupters of the system.

You cannot make a system so perfect that corruption cannot bring it down.  That is impossible so making a sad Pikachu face and being shocked when it does is short sited.

The founding fathers I think came the closest to an incorruptible system because they used checks and balances at every level.  Even to the point of observing that rights are untouchable because they come from God and not the government.  And they gave the people dominion over the government.

But our government and society was to work under the assumption there would always be a plurality of moral people and as such society would be tethered to a common morality at all time.

Well this is where it falls apart.  Evil forces have succeeded in convincing enough people that morality is subjective and a thing of the past so now all those tethers are nearly gone.  So the the system ends up corrupted and the checks and balances to that are now gone so it runs rampant.

Ironically, (in our case) it is not the system that failed the people.  It is the people that failed the system.

“We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion” –John Adams

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” –John Adams

” Some would argue that Communist and Socialist systems would be better under ideal circumstances but stray most from their ideals in a corrupt society.”

Well that is the difference between our system and communism.  Communism is philosophically predicated on a human situation that does not exist. The idea being that people will be happy, productive and creative while being ruled by a central authority and everyone gets equal shares of resources regardless of how much you create or work.  This denies or does not take into account the nature of man in that we require motivation and purpose.

I am not an expert in communist history but the situations I know about were never implemented to give back to the people.  It was always so a small group could rule from on high and this resulted in everyone else just living off scraps and crumbs as no one had any motivation to do anything more than exist.

Now of course we can see China in it’s current form is a bit different.  They have allowed a small amount of capitalism which gives some people the chance to do well but only if the government allows it and even if it does you know full well they can snatch it away from you at any point.

The American system of a constitutional republic takes into account the nature of man and makes it so it can thrive based on it. Now I am mixing some governmental ideas with economic ones but the thought process is the same across both in our case.  And our government was set up with the assumption that it would or could become corrupt.  IE the 2nd amendment.  But they knew ahead of time the 1 weakness in the checks and balances was the people.  Those John Adam’s quotes prove that.  So again, our situation is that the people became as corrupt as the system and the system cannot withstand this.

I agree with you.  Our system gave it the best chance it could.  It could not have possibly done any better in my summation.  The power was with the people.  And the people asked for an authoritarian regime and they got what they asked for.  And the people whom fell for the rhetoric and cheer at a boot being put to the face of their political enemies, will be shocked and confused when they get that same boot.