Tim Pool hate

But there’s a threshold. You say “control freak” and “perfectionist” and “drama”.

I see proffesionalism.

There’s something wrong in the world today where people see others who want to do good work as assholes. It’s an epidemic. It’s EVERYWHERE.

I hope i’m able to convey this notion well, because it’s actually a big deal. In communist nations, as nepotism spreads, everything goes to shit, and that’s been happening here in every sector, even youtube, for over a decade and people are so used to this decay in standards that they don’t even realize they do it any more. Have you guys noticed you might go to a Subway, and the “sandwich artists” don’t do as good a job as they did 10 years ago? People just don’t give a fuck about doing their jobs any more.

You can look at this scene, and they all talk shit. Does anyone here EVER say anything positive about anyone outside of maybe Trump? Or George Lucas… some personality that helped make star wars or some comic book.

This scene just seems to resent people who actually take pride in doing cool shit. And that comes off as a bit hypocritical after all the shit that’s been talked about movies, comics, tv shows, games, etc.

Everyone in this sphere talks MAD SHIT, because people don’t hunker down, and do good work.

Then the ONE DUDE who actually busts his ass and does a high quality show in relation to others in this space, get’s a bit prissy that he’s surrounded by a bunch of lazy, ungrateful fucks, and the entirity of everyone here rises as one to demonize the everloving fuck out of him.

These criticisms are subjective. “He’s a control freak”, well… maybe the people he surrounded himself with don’t do their fucking jobs.

It’s like a microcosm of this world we live in, where everything is going to shit, education, health care, entertainment, JOURNALISM, you name it. This country is a shell of it’s former self and that stems from one central cultural rot. No one holds anyone to any standards or praises or rewards those who go above and beyond. In fact people form these little clicks where everyone talks shit.

Same thing happened with Crowder. This scene is up their own ass about how low their standards are. How they don’t care if Rippa puts out shit comics, how they don’t care if anything goes well, or anyone does a good job outside of grifting on the camera. All while simultaniously talking MAD SHIT about every single TV show, movie, and video game.

Like what is it. Does this sphere give a fuck about people cracking eggs to make an omelette? Or are they just perpetual haters that want it both ways? It just comes off as if they don’t actually give a shit about the things they suppose to stand for. Though to be fair, times are changing, geeks and gamers is more a cultural center now than gaming or reviews.

Just kinda sick of everyone rolling around in this puddle of mediocrity. Everyone’s perfectly happy in this sphere just doing the bare minimum, and god forbid anyone try to actually rise above and provide quality journalism or want to do higher level.

Not going to harp on Rippaverse too hard, but that is the perfect example of the double standard of this sphere. You not going to talk shit about certain things because it affects the bottom line? I get it. But these guys have crossed a threshold with Tim, and it absolutely has entered hater territory.

I don’t think anyone has any idea how much $$$ Adam made from Tim. The worst things i’ve heard him say is that Tim was a control freak and annoying. Like bro, the only reason he was able to hire all these ungrateful assholes is because he busted his ass and held people to standards and got that show off the ground doing compelling talks, and news.

Hints of envy at the #’s he’s pulled, resentments because he brought the hammer down and expected people to do their damned jobs, and sure he went in front of everyone and chastized them for not pulling their damned weight. 20 years ago we would have nodded our heads and said, “Yeah fire those shits and hire some quality employees who give a fuck.” But those employees don’t exist any more. People these days are so coddeled it’s maddening.

We talk about Making America Great Again. That’s not going to happen until people get a swift kick in the bum, and we’re able to tell each other to do their damned jobs again. When we can start having standards again. When people start having to eat crow for doing a shit job of things.

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I’m not even the biggest Tim Pool fan either.

I’m so glad you brought up Gary, because I kinda sense that he struggles with this too. He doesn’t want to look like Tim and he’s lived most his life being low key, but you really get the sense that he takes a ton of pride in putting out quality videos. I’m speculating here, but I think he probably clashed with some of his employees the same way that Crowder did trying to get them to do their work.

And great point about how fame changes people. Once people become more succesful most of them become totally toxic, it’s where the phrase “never meet your heros come from” and why it’s kinda special how there are a few stars that stay down to earth and don’t endulge in to fancy lifestyles and still remain faithful to their fans. I have a good bit of respect for Asmongold in this area. Dude has other issues you could say, but he’s a real down to earth genuine guy and I really respect that.

Tim is too IMO. Dude coulda retired a LONG time ago and live the good life, or make more money selling out. He never did, he stuck to his convictions and even tried to build a huge empire trying to make the world a better place bringing truth and culture to the world. We can make fun of the music he made, but he put himself out there and some of it was even pretty decent!

But we live in a decaying world. People want to make fun of people who bust their ass and try for more rather than praise them.

I’ll just be direct because I don’t mean to totally talk shit. Jeremy is also a great fucking YouTuber (the best Trump booster there is IMO) . Fun dude, awesome friend to his coworkers, he values the people around him more than just about anyone. But if I’m being honest, this is easier to do when you’re surrounded by great people that you consider friends.

It’s easy to get on a soap box and say what a great leader you are when you don’t have to crack a whip because what you produce is actually friendship. There aren’t gaming tournaments here, there aren’t regularly scheduled game reviews like what angry joe does. And that’s fine, Jeremy and his team are kicking ass being proffesional friends and that’s actually fucking amazing. This is so many people’s dream. And to be fair, a lot of work has to go into just doing this. These guys do bust their ass trying to make this look easy, but you guys know what I mean. It’s not as hard as doing the tangible stuff.

I don’t like being negative, I really enjoy this space. It’s fuckin’ retarded and I wouldn’t want anyone to know I watch this crowd XD. But being stupid fun is exactly the rare thing many of us have a hard time finding these days and I really appreciate this scene. But the thing that’s really died off of late are  things of quality.

Quality journalism, quality news, quality culture. Tim took this seriously, and you could tell. No one else did. Dude did his part to try to enact positive change in the world while the haters around him with their greater numbers grouped up and became that sounding board where everyone blew up all the criticisms to some crazy overblown charicature.

We’re never going to make this country great again if we treat everyone trying to rise above and do good shit like peices of shit so we can feel better about ourselves, if we’re crabs in a bucket. You see this time and again, rumors start among a larger in crowd and people tell lie after lie to feed the groups hate and it blows totally out of proportion. Same shit happened to Trump.

Everyone calls Tim a hater. Imagine what it must feel like to pay your employees hundreds of thousands of dollors, or even millions of dollars and have them just goof off in your skate parks, enjoy all your emenities, goof off all day and just show up on stream taking everything for granted.

The older I get, the more rare I come to realize just having a mediocre drive to do anything great and any talent at all, and the stomach to push forward to do those great things are rare as hell. Maybe I’m getting too sappy, but that’s what I love about this sphere so much. A lot of people here have that. Gary and Jeremy for example, even Jay to a degree.

Anyway, rambling at this point. But it’s easy to hate. Shit look at EVS, he’s probably the biggest hater of all, it’s kind of consumed him. I used to defend him but he’s become smeagol, all he does it hate hate hate against “the zeros” and while he used to have a leg to stand on leveraging criticism, he doesn’t really do that hard work any more he used to lord over everyone else. He’s kinda turned into everyting he’s criticized.

I’m not sure it’s anyone’s fault, but this goes back to what we value in this society. More people will tune in to watch EVS talk shit about people than to hear him talk about his comics. Jeremy talking shit about Tim gets huge crowd response. It’s not even necessarily the creators fault’s, we’re become the bloodthirsty crowd that loves rolling around in the muck enjoying the blood sport. Our standards have fallen and we’ve been conditioned over the years to enjoy the shit talk and the attacks.

We used to come here because we loved star wars and we missed great movies, but year over year, we’ve been overcome by the naysaying and the spite and the envy, to the point that this scene is now cannabalizing itself since there are no great shows or movies to discuss anymore.

The election is having a big impact, people are going NUTS right now, and that nervousness is seeping into all our lives as the zeitgeist braces for impact during the election. Hope once this is over with we can find it in ourselves to tryt o find the good in one another and do great stuff again, not to find petty differences and things to be envious about. We can’t keep going like this or things are going to continue to decay and the world will start getting pretty dark.

@Vknid Great insights I wasn’t even thinking about. Another reminder that things are never black and white.

Damn site ate my repsonse again!

What a crazy turn of events. What a shit show Timcast has turned into, I always thought a lot of the criticism was misplaced but now that he’s not in that perfect position to be the fence sitter, seems like he’s ready to sell it all away.

That said he’s about to be a dad, combined with becoming dissilusioned who knows. Something tells me he’ll be back in the relatively near future. Dad duties don’t take up your entire day and Tim’s a workaholic. But we’ll see!